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Wednesday, 07 November 2007

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Thanks for posting this. I will be linking to WhirledView!

I doubt very much that this argument can be won by getting reporters to understand the difference between diplomatic work and military service. Not only the right-wing, but the so-called MainStreamMedia as well, are far too interested in portrayals of weak-kneed, lilly-livered, cookie-pushing diplomats to pay any attention. I wish we were still in an era where earnest discussions of issues by those who have served would help reporters to understand, but that day seems to be over.

The only aspect of the matter right now is just to keep driving home the point that there is no diplomacy purpose to keep open Embassy Baghdad...I don't know what they DO actually do, but delivering demarches, arranging cultural exchanges, negotiating agreements with, say, the national science agency, reporting what you heard on the street -when you don't speak the language - just ain't it. WHAT ARE THOSE 1000 "diplomats" DOING that they must risk life and limb for - and further risk the deaths of innocent bystanders if they venture out of the Green Zone with their Praetorian Guards?

Going in harm's way in order to pretend that we have a normal diplomatic relationship with a fully independent government????? Nonsense...nonsense on stilts.

Vigilante: most appreciate links. Welcome to WV!

Marshall: beats me what a cast of 1,000 plus is doing in the Green Zone. It's hard to really get a fix on the true Foreign Service numbers in Iraq - but I'll bet the vast majority of the 1,000 work for various other agencies and State admin is primarily playing housekeeper - or as someone else wrote - concierge - holding up the umbrella in a deluge. But then, those who know, won't say but I agree, there's no way we could have normal diplomatic relations with a fully independent government with 130,000 or more US troops occupying the country. (Not to mention the Praetorian Guards.)

Aloha, I commanded a PRT at Ghazni, Afghanistan from 04 to 05. I guess I was one of the fortunate ones who had great DOS and USAID reps. You Staties might know them, John Mongan and AL Nugent. Both brought great resumes to the table. While a semi-tree hugger, John knew the military fairly well. He had been an ROTC cadet at Yale, before he decided to go the DOS route. He knew how to shoot, move, and communicate, and was constantly by my side when we dealt with the Pashtun and Hazara chiefs within Ghazni province. More than once I handed John my M9 when the situation got hairy and we thought the feces would hit the fan. Al was a former Marine and a Vietnam vet as well as a retired foreign service officer who had worked all over south-east Asia in good times and bad. I know that a number of the other DOS and USAID reps on the PRTs were cut from the same cloth. But over the last few years, at least, these guys have been burnt out. The DOS needs to establish a real training program, in conjunction with trhe military, that facilitates the training of Staties for these types of missions. The Army has done this type of training before. We ran DEA agents through a short version of Ranger School, back in the 90s. From my foxhole, it couldn't be much worse than taking guys who were career city cops and putting them in the hills of Georgia and the swamps of Florida to prepare them for missions in Colombia and Thailand. This is a good time to build an institutional training capability for DOS to serve on PRTs and other missions where they will serve along side of soldiers and marines, but it needs to be a comprehensive program that helps the DOS build and maintain a "special operations" capability for future contingencies.

Oh well, that's my two cents.

Aloha,

Stack Timomey
COL, USA
Fort Shafter. Hawaii

Col Timoney: Thanks for your well considered 2 cents. You make some very valid points. I don't know the State officers you worked with but others who read WV might.

All things being equal, I don't think State Department officers belong on PRTs in hazardous areas like the ones you describe although their political skills and perhaps linguistic and cultural training - if they received any - could be useful to the PRTs as a whole. But they simply don't have the military training to function well in combat situations and the lack of this training is probably much worse today than in the Vietnam era.

Then the men from State would have had at least basic military service because of the draft and we didn't have all that many women in the Foreign Service anyway. That started to change in 1968.

But if the USG is going to insist that FSOs serve on PRTs in hazardous areas then it should, as you suggest, also provide them with adequate military and anti-terrorist training and equipment.

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